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PEAR Store
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Igor Feghali
2007-03-24 02:47:37 UTC
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I was wondering why we don't have a store with some cool t-shirts.
I would love to evangelize wearing a PEAR t-shirt ;)

The president that proposes a PEAR t-shirt would have my vote =) I'm joking...
David Coallier
2007-03-24 03:11:09 UTC
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I'm defenatly for this too :) Could be something awesome, I'll help
setting up the store if we ever get to it :)
Post by Igor Feghali
I was wondering why we don't have a store with some cool t-shirts.
I would love to evangelize wearing a PEAR t-shirt ;)
The president that proposes a PEAR t-shirt would have my vote =) I'm joking...
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Lukas Kahwe Smith
2007-03-24 10:41:21 UTC
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Post by David Coallier
I'm defenatly for this too :) Could be something awesome, I'll help
setting up the store if we ever get to it :)
Post by Igor Feghali
I was wondering why we don't have a store with some cool t-shirts.
I would love to evangelize wearing a PEAR t-shirt ;)
The president that proposes a PEAR t-shirt would have my vote =) I'm joking...
Rasmus was never interested in having php.net get any money because he
sees it as too much of a hassle. For example php.net declined all money
from Google SoC.

regards,
Lukas
Helgi Þormar Þorbjörnsson
1970-01-01 00:00:00 UTC
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Post by Lukas Kahwe Smith
Post by David Coallier
I'm defenatly for this too :) Could be something awesome, I'll help
setting up the store if we ever get to it :)
I was wondering why we don't have a store with some cool t-shirts. I
would love to evangelize wearing a PEAR t-shirt ;)
The president that proposes a PEAR t-shirt would have my vote =) I'm joking...
Rasmus was never interested in having php.net get any money because he
sees it as too much of a hassle. For example php.net declined all money
from Google SoC.
The money could directly be funded (without taking it's way through
PHP.net).
While we are talking about funds, has anyone ever looked at http://
www.fundable.org/ ?
Could be interesting if we'd ever have to pool some money to achieve some
specific goal that requires some money, i.e. posters, pens, etc. I know
in the past those things have been donated by X and Y org (Lukas, Toby,
others-I'm-forgetting) but you know, good to have options.

- Helgi
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Lukas Kahwe Smith
2007-03-24 13:40:34 UTC
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Post by Helgi Þormar Þorbjörnsson
While we are talking about funds, has anyone ever looked at http://
www.fundable.org/ ?
Could be interesting if we'd ever have to pool some money to achieve some
specific goal that requires some money, i.e. posters, pens, etc. I know
in the past those things have been donated by X and Y org (Lukas, Toby,
others-I'm-forgetting) but you know, good to have options.
BTW: I do not know the exact amount from the top of my head, but I still
about about 150 Euros that I received from an article I wrote (and a few
others from the PEAR Group co-authored) for the german PHP magazine.

regards,
Lukas
Helgi Þormar Þorbjörnsson
1970-01-01 00:00:00 UTC
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Post by Lukas Kahwe Smith
Post by Helgi Þormar Þorbjörnsson
While we are talking about funds, has anyone ever looked at http://
www.fundable.org/ ?
Could be interesting if we'd ever have to pool some money to achieve
some specific goal that requires some money, i.e. posters, pens, etc. I
know in the past those things have been donated by X and Y org (Lukas,
Toby, others-I'm-forgetting) but you know, good to have options.
BTW: I do not know the exact amount from the top of my head, but I still
about about 150 Euros that I received from an article I wrote (and a few
others from the PEAR Group co-authored) for the german PHP magazine.
Cool, that could be used later if we ever have to spend any money on
posters, banners or such

- Helgi
Sebastian Nohn
2007-03-24 13:12:42 UTC
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Post by Lukas Kahwe Smith
Post by David Coallier
I'm defenatly for this too :) Could be something awesome, I'll help
setting up the store if we ever get to it :)
Post by Igor Feghali
I was wondering why we don't have a store with some cool t-shirts.
I would love to evangelize wearing a PEAR t-shirt ;)
The president that proposes a PEAR t-shirt would have my vote =) I'm joking...
Rasmus was never interested in having php.net get any money because he
sees it as too much of a hassle. For example php.net declined all money
from Google SoC.
The money could directly be funded (without taking it's way through
PHP.net).

- Sebastian
Martin Jansen
2007-03-24 13:58:06 UTC
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Post by Lukas Kahwe Smith
Rasmus was never interested in having php.net get any money because he
sees it as too much of a hassle. For example php.net declined all money
from Google SoC.
The money could directly be funded (without taking it's way through
PHP.net).
Can you elaborate on this? I have zero knowledge about the topic, but
would be happy to learn more. Others on this list are in a similar
situation most likely.

- Martin
Lukas Kahwe Smith
2007-03-24 14:00:57 UTC
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Post by Martin Jansen
Post by Lukas Kahwe Smith
Rasmus was never interested in having php.net get any money because he
sees it as too much of a hassle. For example php.net declined all money
from Google SoC.
The money could directly be funded (without taking it's way through
PHP.net).
Can you elaborate on this? I have zero knowledge about the topic, but
would be happy to learn more. Others on this list are in a similar
situation most likely.
Well the legal situation will vary greatly with what country we choose
to base these operations from. Also today I think there are a few
organizations available that can assist OSS projects with the need to
receive/hold funds.

regards,
Lukas
Sebastian Nohn
2007-03-24 14:09:48 UTC
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Post by Lukas Kahwe Smith
Post by David Coallier
I'm defenatly for this too :) Could be something awesome, I'll help
setting up the store if we ever get to it :)
Post by Igor Feghali
I was wondering why we don't have a store with some cool t-shirts.
I would love to evangelize wearing a PEAR t-shirt ;)
The president that proposes a PEAR t-shirt would have my vote =) I'm joking...
Rasmus was never interested in having php.net get any money because he
sees it as too much of a hassle. For example php.net declined all money
from Google SoC.
The money could directly be funded (without taking it's way through
PHP.net).
Reading your answers and questions, I came to the idea, that I chose the
wrong word. I consulted my dictionary and realized that donating is the
correct verb, I was searching for. For example the money could be
donated to IT or non IT related projects like laptop.org (the projects
could be chosen by the PEAR group or president or the package developers
community).

- Sebastian
Igor Feghali
2007-03-24 14:32:01 UTC
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well the idea is not to make money but t-shirts ;)
we can pay for the cost of it and make all of them in a batch. It
could be done perioically, however.
For instance, every 6 months we make a new batch of PEAR shirts for
the interested developers.
Post by Lukas Kahwe Smith
Post by David Coallier
I'm defenatly for this too :) Could be something awesome, I'll help
setting up the store if we ever get to it :)
Post by Igor Feghali
I was wondering why we don't have a store with some cool t-shirts.
I would love to evangelize wearing a PEAR t-shirt ;)
The president that proposes a PEAR t-shirt would have my vote =) I'm joking...
Rasmus was never interested in having php.net get any money because he
sees it as too much of a hassle. For example php.net declined all money
from Google SoC.
regards,
Lukas
Lukas Kahwe Smith
2007-03-24 14:36:23 UTC
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Post by Igor Feghali
well the idea is not to make money but t-shirts ;)
we can pay for the cost of it and make all of them in a batch. It
could be done perioically, however.
For instance, every 6 months we make a new batch of PEAR shirts for
the interested developers.
even so .. "someone/something" needs to hold the money as its passing
through.

regards,
Lukas
Helgi Þormar Þorbjörnsson
1970-01-01 00:00:00 UTC
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well the idea is not to make money but t-shirts ;) we can pay for the
cost of it and make all of them in a batch. It could be done
perioically, however.
For instance, every 6 months we make a new batch of PEAR shirts for the
interested developers.
Hmm yeah kinda like what google is doing for the GSoC mentors I suppose :)
Sounds interesting, do you have any specific design in mind or even a
printer service ?

- Helgi
Igor Feghali
2007-03-24 17:54:04 UTC
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I am not a design expert but I can give a shot if no one else wanna try.
there are lots of shirts industries around my city. Last time I make a
batch of personalized t-shirts it cost $8 each for their best
material. And the product is quite good. I am wearing it for 5 years
already and it doesn't looks like old.

regards,
Igor.
Post by Helgi Þormar Þorbjörnsson
Hmm yeah kinda like what google is doing for the GSoC mentors I suppose :)
Sounds interesting, do you have any spe
Helgi Þormar
2007-03-24 22:56:35 UTC
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Well with services that aren't online then we can generally be more free in
where we put things, online services usually only have back and front images
allowed while offline once will allow you to put it on sleeves, down the
side, reaching from front to the side to the back, right at the neckline at
the back, etc but of course those would be more expensive.

Mark has a link to a good service with quality cloathing, even nike, adidas
and such but I haven't checked where we can put logos and such, I suspect
it's the same with this one as with coffeepress :)

- Helgi
Post by Igor Feghali
I am not a design expert but I can give a shot if no one else wanna try.
there are lots of shirts industries around my city. Last time I make a
batch of personalized t-shirts it cost $8 each for their best
material. And the product is quite good. I am wearing it for 5 years
already and it doesn't looks like old.
regards,
Igor.
Post by Helgi Þormar Þorbjörnsson
Hmm yeah kinda like what google is doing for the GSoC mentors I suppose
:)
Post by Helgi Þormar Þorbjörnsson
Sounds interesting, do you have any specific design in mind or even a
printer service ?
David Coallier
2007-03-24 23:31:50 UTC
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If we get to a conscensus, I would actually be happy to officially
open PEAR as an organization in canada. This means we can have credit
cards, benefits perhaps governmental subventions, etc.

This is to be investigated but could be interesting :)
Post by Helgi Þormar
Well with services that aren't online then we can generally be more free in
where we put things, online services usually only have back and front images
allowed while offline once will allow you to put it on sleeves, down the
side, reaching from front to the side to the back, right at the neckline at
the back, etc but of course those would be more expensive.
Mark has a link to a good service with quality cloathing, even nike, adidas
and such but I haven't checked where we can put logos and such, I suspect
it's the same with this one as with coffeepress :)
- Helgi
Post by Igor Feghali
I am not a design expert but I can give a shot if no one else wanna try.
there are lots of shirts industries around my city. Last time I make a
batch of personalized t-shirts it cost $8 each for their best
material. And the product is quite good. I am wearing it for 5 years
already and it doesn't looks like old.
regards,
Igor.
Post by Helgi Þormar Þorbjörnsson
Hmm yeah kinda like what google is doing for the GSoC mentors I suppose
:)
Post by Helgi Þormar Þorbjörnsson
Sounds interesting, do you have any specific design in mind or even a
printer service ?
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Gregory Beaver
2007-03-24 23:57:35 UTC
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Post by David Coallier
If we get to a conscensus, I would actually be happy to officially
open PEAR as an organization in canada. This means we can have credit
cards, benefits perhaps governmental subventions, etc.
This is to be investigated but could be interesting :)
Hi,

All of these are very interesting possibilities, but I would recommend
these things be discussed by whomever ends up on the PEAR group on May
1, as we're sort of in between governments right now.

:)
Greg
David Coallier
2007-03-25 00:33:33 UTC
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defenatly. That's why I said if we come to a conscensus (I meant if I
get on board ;-)) haha :)
Post by Gregory Beaver
Post by David Coallier
If we get to a conscensus, I would actually be happy to officially
open PEAR as an organization in canada. This means we can have credit
cards, benefits perhaps governmental subventions, etc.
This is to be investigated but could be interesting :)
Hi,
All of these are very interesting possibilities, but I would recommend
these things be discussed by whomever ends up on the PEAR group on May
1, as we're sort of in between governments right now.
:)
Greg
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Founder & Software Architect,
Agora Production (http://agoraproduction.com)
51.42.06.70.18
Igor Feghali
2009-01-27 22:23:54 UTC
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Dear All,

This thread is two years old but it definitely deserves to be revived ! :)

I am in the process of making some shirts for my local PHP UG so I got
my attention back to PEAR's shirt.

David you are now on the board... so I guess its your turn to speak :)

I am top posting the last two or three messages but there are much
more in this thread. If one doesn't have a threaded client / wasn't
subscribed to the list back in 2007 you will have to do some search in
the web archives or ask me the full thread print.

Best,
~IF
Post by David Coallier
defenatly. That's why I said if we come to a conscensus (I meant if I
get on board ;-)) haha :)
Post by Gregory Beaver
Post by David Coallier
If we get to a conscensus, I would actually be happy to officially
open PEAR as an organization in canada. This means we can have credit
cards, benefits perhaps governmental subventions, etc.
This is to be investigated but could be interesting :)
Hi,
All of these are very interesting possibilities, but I would recommend
these things be discussed by whomever ends up on the PEAR group on May
1, as we're sort of in between governments right now.
:)
Greg
Mark Wiesemann
2007-03-24 14:47:39 UTC
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Post by Igor Feghali
well the idea is not to make money but t-shirts ;)
we can pay for the cost of it and make all of them in a batch. It
could be done perioically, however.
For instance, every 6 months we make a new batch of PEAR shirts for
the interested developers.
We could consider using spreadshirt.net (and .com for developers in the
US): https://www.spreadshirt.net/56.0.html

They allow people to open a shop. The shop owner can create some
designs, and they will make the shirts (cups or whatever) after somebody
orders an item. I heard that the quality of the shirts is quite good and
that the prices are quite fair.

Regards,
Mark
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